Product

*Soundgas Type 636P 2 - Twin Grampian 636 Preamp

Deposit or full payment. 'Soundgas-in-a-rack.' Transformer balanced twin channel germanium preamp based on the Grampian Type 636. 

Select Currency

Clear

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION

Preorders now open for the latest: secure yours with a deposit (or payment in full). Shipping April 2024.

Rackmount evolution of our Grampian 636 preamp circuit. A two channel Type 636 mic preamp with Carnhill transformer balanced outputs for greater versatility and extended sonic palette.

Description

Update April 2024: we have now incorporated phantom power into the design (photos will be updated soon).

The Soundgas Type 636P2 is the latest incarnation of the Soundgas Type 636 and desktop Type 636P which both feature our evolution of same hairy mic preamp circuit as the original Grampian Type 636. However this is far more than two 636Ps in a rack: the addition of the Carnhill transformer balanced output option massively increases versatility and offers a wider sonic palette. From subtle sweetening and widening of audio signals passing through with very little gain applied through to maximum filth and gnarl via the original unbalanced input/outputs. The 636P2 brings the 636 preamp into contention for more subtle bus/mix sweetening as well as wilder germanium fuzz and drive. 

How does it sound? At higher gain settings the transformers smooth out some of the wildness of the 636 to deliver a classy – yet still harmonically rich – sound. We have been blown away by how different these sound with the balanced outputs, and by how much we want to use it on everything. And if you want the full original 636 preamp magic, untamed by those beautiful red transformers? Simple – just plug into the 1/4″ jack ‘punch out’ socket – this bypasses the transformer circuit and gives you that hairy (out of phase) direct output as found on the 636 and 636P.

What is it? Based on the Grampian Type 636 – famously used and abused by Lee ‘Scratch’ Perry and Pete Townshend – and many others since. This circuit is designed and built absolutely in the spirit of the original vintage units – no surface mount components in the audio path or tone sapping DSP. Designed, developed and assembled in our workshops in Crich, England. In an era of mass production, these builds are a throwback to a bygone era when small manufacturers made everything themselves.

This is a labour of love and represents the culmination of our collective experience of – and love for – the 636 circuit. It is not the modern way: the expense of working like this means these particular units are not for everyone, but this does mean we are able to control every aspect of the process and build something of which we are all justifiably very proud. The time and outlay just to source and test NOS transistors that perform to our specification is slightly terrifying: the vast majority of OC45s we have found do not meet our criteria.

Can I hear it? Yes, there are various demos below featuring a variety of sources. Scroll down to see the demos.

Here’s a stem-by-stem video demo of an earlier unit (you can also check out Hainbach’s encounter with this circuit).

What’s inside? Two boards from the Type 636P inside a 1U rack case with added Carnhill transformer balanced outputs. The two sides are independent circuits using a common power supply (on a standard IEC socket, internally switchable voltage). Each channel has a 1/4″ jack input, input level control pot (gain), Grampian specification mic transformer, overload lamp and input impedance switch (select between guitar/line use, or adjust to taste).

Staying true to the original Grampian 636 design, the mic preamp ‘punch out’ output is unbalanced on a ¼” jack socket and is out of phase – plugging into this output will disable the XLR outputs on the rear.

As with our original 636s, we have put tonal considerations ahead of all else. I was originally skeptical that we’d see a real benefit in using germanium transistors in the buffer section: all our original prototypes had used silicon and sounded great. However Dr Huw insisted that we build an all germanium version for comparison which blew all the earlier versions out of the water; this became the 636P which has now evolved into the 636P2.

HISTORY OF THE SOUNDGAS TYPE 636 PROJECT BY TONY:

I’ve been using Grampian 636s for getting on for 30 years having ‘discovered’ one entirely by chance back when they languished unappreciated and unrecognised (it cost me around £70 and needed a fair bit of work – even then it was very noisy and more than a little unreliable). I knew nothing at the time of their history and use by Pete Townshend and Lee Scratch Perry, nor what it was that made these unprepossessing grey boxes so very special. They reacted to liberal overload abuse with such unbridled (and unequalled) ferocity that I was immediately hooked and thus began my infatuation with the Grampian Type 636. I now know, thanks to Huw, that this germanium transistor based circuit is of a slightly odd design (which explains why so few people seem able to figure out how to fix them well).

To say I am proud and humbled by our team’s endeavours over the past three tumultuous years is an understatement. It all began when “Doctor” Huw rebuilt a Grampian Type 636 for our much-missed friend Philippe Zdar for his Motorbass studio. That unit had been stored on its side for 20-30 years with the battery at the top and was almost completely destroyed by acid leakage. I mentioned that as he’d almost built a new one in the process might that in fact be possible?

We’d never manufactured anything (Huw had custom built guitar pedals and synth modules). The new design had to be as authentic as possible but with lower noise and more low end: Huw triumphed and we cautiously set out to make ten replica Type 636s using refurbished vintage Gibbs tanks.

As soon as Huw had designed the 636, we discussed whether the mic preamp alone could be built in a standalone unit, and one appeared pretty quickly on my bench soon after (built into an old Binson Echorec faceplate we had lying around). Covid-19 played havoc with our plans and with Huw’s health, and what would eventually become the 636P had to wait.

In the meantime we continued building small batches of Type 636s to satisfy demand and keep our newly-employed studio engineer Ben busy during lockdowns. There are now around 80 Soundgas Type 636s in existence and while we’ve no plans to make more using vintage tanks, we do have a new 636 reverb project in mind.

The 636P preamp-only prototypes duly came along. In classic Soundgas style, what was intended as a prototype became the production version – the no-nonsense, minimal, aesthetic seemed fitting for our monstrous sonic wolf in sheep’s clothing. Plaudits started coming – ‘the only drive/fuzz I need’ and ‘this is the sound I’ve been searching for my whole life, thank you’ are two that have stuck in my head. Again, what started as a low key project has ballooned and we continue to hand assemble small batches of Type 636Ps in our workshops.

At present, all 636 units are entirely built by our team here in Crich, England in the grand tradition of old school British audio manufacturing: made by hand by talented people who obsess over – and focus on – sonic detail above all else. My thanks and appreciation go out to our dedicated tech team who have created – or helped in the creation of – these units.

More info on the build of the original Type 636P including photos and demos.

SOME ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ON USAGE

The units were originally intended as mic pres: using a SM 58 through them never sounded so fat. Alternatively using a Grampian Ribbon mic provides creamy delicious sonics, or the Grampian DP4 mics ensure a frazzle that is compelling. We have used the unit to mic up snares with a ribbon mic piped through the rear balanced, in phase output and then a DP4 for the snare bottom through the unbalanced out of phase “Break Out” output. (other mics are available)

The 636P2 is also a great tool for reamping, enriching or toughening up stems with that wonderful Germanium texture. If you tickle the input and find that sweet spot of gain stems will sound super rich with analogue warmth. Alternatively if you so desire absolutely annihilating your sonics with that lush harmonic distortion that Germanium delivers then drive the input and the gain til your heart’s content.

Whilst the units are intended to be dual mono there is a definite pleasure in using them as stereo units with similar gain and frequency response. Though due to the nature of the Germanium crystal and its atmospheric reaction there will be subtle variations in gain and frequency responses.eIf you use the 636P2 as an instrument DI it is absolutely crackers on drum machines and synths, from clear solid analogue warmth to absolute frazzled distorted crunch and fuzz.

As Pete Townshend discovered back in the sixties, you can plug in your electric guitar and crank the gain to max and achieve the most compelling distortion fuzz you’ve ever heard.

 

Condition

Brand new.

Voltage Information

Will be set up for either 120 or 240v operation before shipping.

Tax

For sales in UK the price will include 20% VAT. Buyers elsewhere may incur VAT or other local taxes on import.

More video

Type 636P2 Demo

Running different stems through the beast...

Prototype 636P2 in action

Early version without Carnhills!

DIG DEEPER...

*Soundgas Type 636P 2 – Twin Grampian 636 Preamp

Gear Info

Soundgas News

Soundgas Type 636 & 636P Update

We plan to build a short run of pre-production 636Ps to ship in early 2022 and then take a break while we build the final Soundgas...

PUBLISHED: 21st Dec 2021

DISCOVER MORE
*Soundgas Type 636P 2 – Twin Grampian 636 Preamp

Gear Info

Soundgas News

Incoming! The Soundgas Type 636P (Guitar Pedal… or?)

Say hello to the prototype Type 636P: all the heft and magic of the our 636 mic preamp in a compact desktop box.

PUBLISHED: 10th Aug 2021

DISCOVER MORE
*Soundgas Type 636P 2 – Twin Grampian 636 Preamp

Gear feature

Gear History

Grampian Type 636 – Believe the hype…

Grampians: some history and technical information about these superb, legendary machines. If you are looking to buy a Grampian or have one to sell in any...

PUBLISHED: 30th Jun 2016

DISCOVER MORE
*Soundgas Type 636P 2 – Twin Grampian 636 Preamp

Gear Info

Soundgas News

Grampian & Soundgas Type 636 Q & A Session

Video from the Q&A session we did on the Grampian and Soundgas Type 636 units, plus an update on the Soundgas 636 build. Also Jane Weaver!

PUBLISHED: 29th Oct 2019

DISCOVER MORE
*Soundgas Type 636P 2 – Twin Grampian 636 Preamp

Gear feature

(Re)Building the Ark – Grampian Type 636 News…

We now have the first working prototype of what will be known as the Soundgas Type 636. A faithful recreation/re-imagining of the original Grampian Type 636,...

PUBLISHED: 24th Apr 2019

DISCOVER MORE
*Soundgas Type 636P 2 – Twin Grampian 636 Preamp

Events

Gear Info

Soundgas News

Soundgas (Grampian) Type 636 Update

Some news on progress with preorders for the Soundgas Type 636. It's an updated, studio-ready clone of the original Grampian Type 636 reverb unit.

PUBLISHED: 26th Jun 2019

DISCOVER MORE

TESTIMONIALS

"Still in shock! Can not believe how good the seller is. This product was inspected, and shipped from the UK to the USA quicker than orders from my home state. Highly recommend these guys."

Thomas Tedesco

"Excellent equipment, wonderful service. I fully recommend Soundgas to anyone in the vintage gear market and I will definitely be a return customer. The gear itself was exactly as advertised and in great condition."

Hallam Kite

"Soundgas provided the absolutely top service in terms of item quality as well as service and communication. Shipping was fast, packing was top notch. These people deserve the best reputation they already have. Many many thanks, guys."

Dupille Luc

“I have bought two Moog synths from Soundgas over the past year, and I cannot say enough wonderful things about their selection of vintage products, the level of service, diligent responses to email, and expedient shipping with copious protective packaging. Soundgas is an impressive operation. My synths also sound amazing! These folks have made my vintage keyboard dreams come true in short order!”

J Yates

“Imagine the perfect eBay.... with everything you never knew you wanted… and you can rest assured that your vintage and rare wobbly sound device will turn up on time and in one piece and possibly in even better condition that when it left the workshop. Soundgas - literally amazing."

Josh Lloyd-Watson & Tom McFarland - Jungle

"Yes, sure, you can find a Space Echo on eBay, but you won’t find one like this — that’s certain. I am so pleased with my decision to buy from Soundgas, and suggest you stop your search now and just send them a message. You will undoubtedly find yourself writing an ecstatic review about yours in short time."

Ben Evolo

Just wanted to say thank you so much for your pinch roller and echo tape. I've had a space echo for years, been sent to a shop in NYC and it never worked quite right. After installing the roller and tape, my echo works like a dream. Really incredible expertise you all have! Thank you.

Andrew Potter

"808 is up and running. It’s hard to stop playing it. Like even to eat. Extending testing is quality control and the quality of your stuff combined with customer service is one of the reasons Soundgas is so successful in my opinion."

Brett R

"DREAM. COME. TRUE. My music has taken me around the world a few times...and if you are like me and absolutely adore vintage gear...Soundgas is the stuff of LEGENDS. It's the shop that people like us search for our whole lives- fantastic and rare selections, and the technical know-how to repair and or mod these vintage items to get them into shape to flow with your modern setup."

Tom Gossin

"Finally, a company that tracks down all those brilliant curiosities that bring so much character and personality to a studio."

Matthew Herbert

"Soundgas offer a great service, sourcing esoteric gear that works great."

Tom Rowlands - Chemical Brothers

As good as it gets. Tony, Dec and team have been incredible, prompt communication, great advice and outstanding service. It really felt like my Polysix came from a loving home.

Ben Parm

“I purchased a completely overhauled vintage valve Binson Echorec 2 T7E modified with varispeed, wet-only output, and a new paint job from Soundgas in early 2018. Tony and his team did an amazing job during every step of the purchase”

Matt Morton

"Just received my Roland RS 505 Paraphonic! Thanks so much - arrived very promptly, well packaged, in great condition and sounds amazing! Best seller."

Koko Hiras

"Engaging with old gear can sometimes be filled with a lot of uncertainty, and I can't imagine what more could be done to reduce this aspect of it on top of the service you provide. Really phenomenal and I couldn't be happier."

Stephen Voinea

“If you are a vintage audio gear head then this is the place you have been looking for all your life. Pretty much any piece of classic or obscure kit that you are after is available here... But the clincher for me is that the gear they sell has been restored by their top techs (unless otherwise noted) which is really very important when dealing with, for example, synths from 30 years ago.”

Lincoln Barrett / High Contrast

Fantastic. From initial contact to the product landing at my door the service provided was outstanding. Safe and secure shipping, quality serviced product.

Tom Johnston

"When you are spending big money of vintage gear it's nice to have the confidence of impeccable service, sales and support... some of the best in the industry! Impeccable people, incredible equipment… my poor poor fiancé"

James DLR - Sofa Sound/Metalheadz

Purchased a Juno-60 and it works beautifully. Having gotten one teched before, I knew it was worth paying a premium to get it future proofed and Soundgas does just that. Shipped professionally from the UK to USA. Appreciate their expertise and professional demeanor!

Eric Cullen

“The perfect place to hear, learn about and then buy your most wanted piece of vintage music gear! I've not only managed to buy a rare piece of equipment I really wanted, but I have the guarantee it's been serviced, and I got it from people who are clearly passionate and knowledgeable about what they do, as well as super friendly and responsive by email. Thoroughly recommended!”

Colleen / Cécile Schott

“If not a new language, then at least a very challenging, old dialect that will take me some time to assimilate. I’ve been waiting a long time for the challenge. Thank you @soundgasltd, she’s a beaut...and nobody prepares and packs like you fine folks.”

Justin Meldal-Johnsen

“The Space Echo made its way to me - it looks and sounds beyond dreams, thanks guys for your great service and communication.”

Julius Bonson

"The packing job to get it over to the US was superb, and the sound and performance of my Space Echo exceeds all of my expectations. I hope to do business with Soundgas again in the future. Many thanks!”

Rhett Daily

"Packed with love and care. A stampede couldn't have crushed this thing. Works great and sounds like a dream. I love you Soundgas."

Ben Van Vlissingen

Grabbed a Roland RE-201 (early edition killer pre-amp) and Roland DC-50. Absolutely STUNNING. These guys truly live up to the hype. They are meticulous in caring for the gear. Also, I have a few guitar pedal and plug-in emulations of tape-echo sounds and after plugging in the real unit I can't tell you how insane the difference is. It is incredible. Especially that tone from the early pre-amp! I am totally amazed. I am in heaven :) They made it safely to Nashville from the UK and were packed really really well! Thank you so much!! Worth every penny.

Chance Allen

“I’ve bought a number of items from Soundgas recently, and have been really impressed with their service. It takes the stress out of buying vintage gear to know it’s been properly (and faithfully) serviced or restored. Their after-sales service has also been exemplary. Highly recommended.”

David Wrench

I have been buying vintage stuff for a long time from resellers/stores/techs. I've never been so surprised and pleased after opening! Just received a Roland RE-201 and VX55 mixer, they look and sound amazing! Thanks to Tony/Declan for the service and the Soundgas team will be back!

Dong Yun Seok

"Soundgas has an unbelievable selection of the cool, old stuff that’s hard to find. Tony knows his stuff and goes out of his way to make sure the transaction is a smooth one. Thanks guys!"

Tucker Martine - Flora Recording

RECENT BLOG ARTICLES

The Weird and the Wonderful – An Auction Update

The Weird and the Wonderful – An Auction Update

We can't stop here, this is bat country! Our next auction (November 22nd) features some head-turning, show-stopping synths, however we also wanted to put the spotlight...

PUBLISHED: 21st Nov 2023

DISCOVER MORE
Teaching Machines Wellspring Reverb Review

Teaching Machines Wellspring Reverb Review

Tony takes a dive into the new Welsh-made Wellspring Stereo Reverb and comes up with a very big smile on his face.

PUBLISHED: 17th Oct 2023

DISCOVER MORE

OUR GUARANTEE

We stand behind our gear with a guarantee of your satisfaction - see the FAQ section above for full details and buy with complete confidence.

SHIPPING DISCOUNTS

When buying more than one item you only pay the shipping on the item with the highest shipping cost. Calculated automatically at checkout.

NEED HELP?

Get in touch via the contact page. We know & love our gear and we want to ensure you get something that matches your needs (that, and we just like talking gear).

Select your currency