Which Binson Echorec?

Looking to buy a Binson? At the time of writing many of the machines that feature in the image above, and in the demos below, are available on the site. You can see the Echorecs we have listed for sale here, but if you can’t find what you need then please get in touch; most of the valve T7E and PE 603T machines sell on a pre-order basis and rarely make it to the site.

Binson Echorec Mountain

Which Binson Echorec?

I’ve been a Binson head for approaching a quarter of a century now, and have owned and used many examples from all eras of production: from a stunningly over-engineered early T5E dating from the late fifties, to the less iconic (but still very useful) solid state echoes produced in the late seventies/early eighties. All have their place as inspiring recording, mixing and performance devices.

I can’t remember a time when we’ve ever had such a large selection of restored Binson Echorecs for sale on the site. A customer recently contacted me to say “I’ve wanted a Binson for years, but which Echorec model should I buy?”. Here’s a brief guide and a few personal thoughts.

Echorecs were primarily designed for guitars, vocals and keyboards, and were much more stable than contemporary tape echoes. They can sound stunning on a wide variety of sources, and it’s fair to say that our Binson customers span a very wide range of musical styles and genres. Below is a brief clip (and below that the full YouTube track in stereo) of Matt Morton making great use of his Soundgas Echorec 2…

Yes. @mattmortonmusic promised us some video of the killer valve Binson Echorec that he just got from us. Think it’s fair to say he delivered. Wow. 

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In The Beginning…

Echorec T5E

These early machines are very often badly worn and require a good deal of work and parts to become truly useful again; in my early days I must’ve bought nearly half a dozen before giving them up as a bad idea. It’s a different story today: with access to replacement parts and talented Binson engineers, we’ve had several superb examples – the last of which went to the legendary Blackbird Studios in Nashville.

Binson Echorec T5E. Stunning-sounding early valve machine with varispeed mod. Joel, our resident guitarist, is off, so you get my hamfisted efforts. Enough for you to hear how good this machine sounds.

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A good T5E is stunning for guitar – warm and thick with tone for days – but it’s also a strong contender for anyone looking for a smoother vintage echo sound, as the demo below demonstrates perfectly.

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Echorec Baby

I love Baby Binsons. There, I’ve said it. I had two for years, with serial numbers that were exactly 100 apart. I recorded much of an album by a singer songwriter friend through my Baby Binson and it sounded amazing on everything.

Syd Barrett used and abused an Echorec Baby in psychedelic era Pink Floyd. Pete Townshend told me about wanting an Echorec ever since seeing Syd play at the UFO Club in 1967. According to Pete, Syd played one chord into two Echorecs and the band jammed for half an hour to the oscillating repeats…

But it’s not just guitars that sound epic with a Baby. Jimmy Page employed one on John Bonham’s drum kit when recording Led Zeppelin IV at Headley Grange. It wasn’t just the sound of the famous stairwell in When The Levee Breaks, the Baby’s repeats not only inspiring Bonzo to play that legendary beat, but also adding to the ambience and feel.

Big Baby. Proof that you really can’t beat old analogue gear for sheer levels of filth that never get harsh. Here I’m brutally overdriving the input of this Baby Binson while the MPC-1 undergoes final pre-shipping testing (it’s fine and shipping out to its new home in NYC). The Baby is just back from a service with our in house echo specialist, Dr Huw and is sounding very good indeed…

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I can recommend a Baby Binson to anyone: cheaper and simpler than the bigger machines, with shorter repeats (down to a smaller diameter drum), but with masses of vibe and character. Whether you’re a guitar player, electronic musician or studio engineer, a fully-functioning Baby is always going to bring you great joy.

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Echorec B1/B2

Updated versions of the Baby in a larger case and with the bigger wheel, also used in the Echorec 2, these machines can be a more economic route to the valve Binson sound. Hank Marvin used one in The Shadows for many years, as well as his long-serving Baby. They can sound truly immense on drums/beats and with added varispeed, they’re a monster proposition.

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Echorec 2 T7E

The daddy. Stunning-sounding valve preamps, plus the fluttery reverb-like Swell function, all housed in that iconic case. If, like me, you were raised on a diet of Pink Floyd ‘Live At Pompeii’, ‘Meddle’ and ‘Dark Side Of The Moon’, then the sound and look of this machine will be very familiar. This is the model everyone wants, and the one seen in many top recording studios around the world. Also later produced as a solid state unit, which while still very good (and capable of some immense overdrive), is not as desirable as the valve version.

A good valve Echorec 2 is a thing of magnificence and wonder, as composer Matt Morton recently discovered: “The echo sounds absolutely stunning, and it’s extremely inspiring to work with – within a few days of receiving it, I had already used it on several cues.”

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Dan and Mick of That Pedal Show used one of our Echorec 2s (currently for sale) for their epic Wet/Dry/Wet episode: ‘It just makes the guitar sound BIG’. here’s Mick testing/getting lost in the same Binson in our studio:

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Echorec PE 603-T

An Echorec 2 in a larger, more road-ready metal case, with individual buttons to switch the initial echo and repeats for each head. The valve version is every bit as desirable as the Echorec 2, but more solid state units were made (by which time quality was starting to slip – they can require a lot of work to be right); some 603 variants look very similar to the 603 T, but with reduced functionality. However a good valve 603 is a monster.

Another stunner of ours that wowed That Pedal Show the first time they borrowed one of our machines for their Echorec pedal shoot out:

Sound City Echomaster

A solid state B1/2 – capable of some awesome distortion and great effects, especially useable with varispeed mod. Good introduction to the Echorec.

Dec and Joel are getting set up for their Wednesday afternoon office jam, when they dig out various pieces from the Soundgas Stock Room and make noises (office perks). Love the sound of the Sound City Echorec and Small Stone…

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Echorec EC-3

A later solid state machine that can be tricky unless well-serviced, but like the Echomaster above, a great introduction to the Binson sound.

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Binson EC-3, Stix Drum machine and mystery effect. The Stix isn’t 100% right, but we’re loving the crackle from the sliders here. The Binson sound fantastic with beats. But what’s the mystery effect?

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Echorec EC-6; PE 603T-6; A 605 TR-6

These six head solid state machines offer a wide range of echo rhythms and effects, again overdriving like demons when pushed. Seriously cool devices for electronic adventurers. Add varispeed and they’re in another realm of creativity and sonic skulduggery.

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Echorec PE 603 STEREO

We’ve only ever had one of these rare beasts, and restoring it nearly broke our Binson tech at the time. Two memory systems and twice the circuitry squeezed into the same space normally filled by a single channel, circuits made from cut down pieces of boards from a regular 603, and no schematic available! It sounded amazing, but sold before we even had the chance to become properly acquainted. Not for the faint of heart.

And that’s it for now. I could (and no doubt will) go on and on about these machines. And, with so many machines sold, we have an almost endless supply of demos. If you want to see them as they appear then our instagram feed is the place to be. And if you have comments, questions or Binson war stories then they are more than welcome.

For more information about buying vintage Echorecs (and the modern pedal emulations), please see my earlier blog, ‘Why Buy An Original Binson Echorec?’.

Are you looking to buy a fully-restored and guaranteed Binson Echorec? At the time of writing many of the machines that feature in the demos above are for sale. You can see the Echorecs we have listed for sale here, but if you don’t see what you need then please get in touch; most valve T7E and PE 603-T machines sell on a pre-order basis and rarely make it to the site.

And we also have a growing Binson Resources section on the site which includes links to further useful resources for on these machines.

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Tony Miln is the co-founder (& Head Gear Head) of Soundgas. See/hear him in action on Instagram.

Buying a Binson Echorec – Modern Pedal or Vintage Machine?

Why buy an original Binson Echorec?

Original Binson Echorecs are the classic Ferrari of electro-mechanical delays. They’re rare, expensive, require specialist restoration and servicing, parts are scarce, and they need to be cared for and run regularly to remain in top condition.

 

Binson Echorec 2º T7E and Ferrari

Once the preserve of the lucky few – in 1962 a Baby Binson cost around £140 (£20 less than a Fender Stratocaster, £20 more than a Vox AC-30) and most of those British guitarists wishing to replicate the sound of Hank Marvin and the Shadows, Syd Barrett and Pink Floyd (and latterly David Gilmour) had to make do with a Watkins Copicat (the Mini of echoes?) rather than such costly Italian exotica.

Today, guitarists, keyboard players and electronic musicians have a choice of comparatively inexpensive options for recreating the Binson sound that would make them the envy of sixties musicians. 

Binson Echorec Effect Pedals

What pedals recreate the Binson sound?

The guitar pedal market is saturated with overdrives, fuzzes and a myriad versions of classic circuits, but perhaps unsurprisingly, there are only a few pedals that can approximate the sound of a Binson.

From the USA, Catalinbread were the first into the fray – by quite some margin – with their Echorec. Next came Gurus with a pedal that could only have come from Italy – the Echosex 2º – which, though only offering single head repeats, got very close to the sound of a valve Binson. Hot on their heels were Dawner Prince Electronics with the uniquely-monikered Boonar (nope, me neither) which crammed full Echorec 2 functionality into its diminutive form factor. Gurus followed the original Echosex with the Echosex 2º Ltd which sported a fancy gold paint job, was optimised for guitar, and limited to only 500 units. Foxpedal’s versatile delay, The Wave, features a single head Binson emulation alongside Echoplex EP-3 and Roland RE-201 options. Gurus have recently released the Echosex 2º T7E which shares the multihead functionality with its namesake Binson Echorec 2 T7E and Dawner Prince are rumoured to be working on a valve version of the Boonar.

Which is the best Binson pedal?

Undoubtedly, there are many answers to this question: potential buyers have many different requirements/tastes and each pedal has advantages and disadvantages with the result that no single pedal thus far released can be said to be the outright winner. I intend to cover this question in more detail in a forthcoming blog. 

Binson Echorec Super Special

What about a modern Binson?

Those who yearn for a true electro-mechanical modern Echorec, have for some years been well-served by Marcello Patruno’s Special Binsons. These superb machines are the ultimate modern interpretation of Dr Bonfiglio Bini’s original Echorec. Signore Patruno has steadily improved the design and engineering to a point where it’s quite fair to suggest that his valve machines are what Binson would be building today if they were still in business. The technical performance could be said to be almost too good – the lack of noise and modulation on the repeats takes some acclimatising to for those raised on vintage Echorecs – but they represent the pinnacle of Echorec engineering. As you would expect, this level of quality does not come cheap and, like the original Binsons of the 60s, the valve machines are the sole preserve of the well-heeled musician. They perform so flawlessly that those seeking to replicate the warm modulated repeats of Marvin, Barrett, Gilmour, Waters and Wright, may find them a touch too clean. Indeed, it is precisely those flaws and foibles that make a vintage Binson so special, though I think it fair to say that the valve Special Binsons deserve their place at the top table as one of the most technically-advanced electro-mechanical echoes ever produced.

Then there’s Phil Taylor at Effectrode: he’s been working on his Echorec 3 for some years – that’s one I would love to see come to fruition. His latest news on the subject is here:

http://www.effectrode.com/echorec-3/

T-Rex Binson Echorec

Denmark’s T-Rex Effects set everyone’s hearts racing with their teaser at 2017’s NAMM showing a mock-up of the new compact Binson Echorec that they are developing. Read more about this on my previous blog post here. This is undoubtedly an exciting prospect as T-Rex have an unerring eye for detail and high quality engineering. Their Replicator is a personal favourite – it’s never going to challenge a well-maintained vintage quarter inch tape echo for echo fidelity, but as a colourful and creative tone machine, it’s a winner. I anticipate the joys of a T-Rex Binson, but I would expect it to be (as with the Replicator) an addition to the armoury rather than a direct replacement for a vintage Echorec.

Stop Press! Just found their latest update – they’re working on how to make the heads stable so they can be adjusted for factory calibration yet not move once shipped/gigged. That’s a tough gig, but they’ll figure it out for sure. This is a very exciting project.

T-Rex Replicator Tape Echo Pedal

So, given the choices outlined above, why would I recommend that someone buy an original vintage Binson Echorec?

Firstly, there’s the sound. A well-restored valve Echorec, especially with added varispeed control, is sonically peerless. I’ve heard many Binsons and all of the available above-mentioned alternatives, and I’d take an imperfect well-used original over them all, as long as it’d been well-serviced and came from a reliable source.

My first Binson is still in our studio – it’s very worn and for many years only made strange noises, the like of which I’ve never heard before or since – but I’ve kept it all these years because of its character. The Baby Binson I chose to keep is not the best example I’ve had, but it has a sweetness and sound that I couldn’t bear to part with: I recorded most instrumental parts of an entire album through that preamp.

My Echorec 2 is one of the best half dozen Echorec 2s I’ve heard in over twenty years and, together with the Baby, is one of a handful of pieces I’d grab if our studio was on fire (God forbid).

For some people, it’s simply a case of authenticity – we prefer vintage guitars to new ones – and there’s no denying the presence a fine Echorec exudes in a studio with the backlit plexiglass panel and glowing magic eye level indicator.

That authenticity of course goes well beyond the physical: as I mentioned above, for those of us more inclined to abusing our Binsons, there really is nothing else that sounds like a valve Echorec’s self oscillation. And nothing can come close to the joyful noise you make overdriving the inputs of any Binson – valve or solid state – and cranking up the feedback.  

Then there’s the preamps: a guitar just sounds so good through a valve Binson – real valves running hot at full voltage (rather than backlit with a green led for effect!). The valve preamp in a Binson is a thing of great joy as Dan and Mick found when we lent them one of our restored 603s for their Echorec edition of ‘That Pedal Show’.

Then there’s the engineering, and the joy of using a piece of equipment built with love and care in an era when quality was of paramount importance (this doesn’t necessarily apply to all Binsons of the seventies!) – before bean-counters predominated designers. Marvel at the delicate pressure of the jockey wheel on the drum, the heads set perfectly to barely touch the drum, the beauty of the backlit front face.

For me it’s combination of all of the above factors, but also because I’m in the midst of a lifelong love for and appreciation of Binson Echorecs, and nothing but the real thing will float my boat. Going back to the car analogy at the start of this article, I’d choose a vintage Ferrari over a modern one every time: the feel and smell of old gear is intoxicating, and while it may not always be as reliable as a modern version (though very often it turns out to be so), the joy of using the real thing is undeniable.

What should I watch out for when buying a Binson?

Binson Echorec Bad Wiring

I’ve been using and buying Binsons for nearly a quarter of a century and it’s probable that I’ve bought and heard more Echorecs than any other living person in the English-speaking world. I’ve seen and heard many explanations as to their functionality. I will focus on what to watch out for when buying a Binson, and what questions to ask of the seller, in a forthcoming blog, but for now, be very, very wary of buying a used Binson.

The most important thing to be aware of is that many Echorecs, produced after the mid-sixties and possibly into the seventies, can be extremely dangerous due to the use of wiring with insulation that degrades over time – it can result in bare wires carrying mains voltage that come into contact with the metal case! This is potentially lethal in a machine with no earthed mains cable. I’ve had my share of shocks – the most recent from an otherwise immaculate 603 that the seller had bought serviced and rewired. A visual inspection of the wiring suggested all was well, but the tech had missed a cable hidden behind the transformer whose insulation had finally dropped off by the time I received it. The seller had been using the machine for some years without incident so had no reason to suspect there was anything wrong.

See below for a similar issue found in a restored Echorec 2 – a wire carrying HT voltage with all insulation missing – invisible as the transformer is contained in a metal case. Fortunately, it was accidentally plugged into  240v (it was set up for 110v) which immediately blew the fuse – and fried the transformer which revealed this horror.

Binson Echorec Bad Insulation on Wiring

Unless the seller can prove their knowledge and offer you concrete evidence that the machine has been serviced by one of a very small number of qualified engineers, and unless you can hear the exact machine being sold – clearly hear the quality of repeats and any mechanical noise – my advice would be to avoid like the plague, unless you access to a tech with extensive knowledge of electronics, mechanics, and valve/tape theory. And always get a new machine checked over by a qualified engineer before use.

“A cheap Binson is rarely a bargain, and an expensive one with uncertain provenance can prove very costly indeed.”

A couple of further points regarding ‘serviced’ Binsons: not all restored machines are equal, even though the asking price would suggest so. Nor are all techs equal (see my experience with the otherwise perfect-looking 603 above). I have seen many examples of Echorecs that appear to be advertised as serviced and working well, but when you dig down into the detail of the description, photos or demos, it becomes very clear that they are a long way from right. And those machines advertised with barely any detail? My advice is that you should consider them to be very much for spares or repair only (and remember that a full restoration is a time-consuming and expensive job).

I’ve bought machines serviced by supposed experts, by ‘ex-Binson’ techs, by otherwise experienced engineers. Barely any have performed as I would expect from a good Echorec; many have been sorely-lacking and often dangerous. From my experience of the past twenty years with Binsons, it’s become very clear that there are very few people alive today who know how a good Binson should sound, and far fewer who know how to service and restore these incredible machines to reach their potential.

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Tony Miln is the co-founder (& Head Gear Head) of Soundgas. See/hear him in action on Instagram.